The cloud area to the north is within a thickness ridge and WA at the boundary to a distinct CA center. From these parameter distributions it can be concluded that the initial stage of the cloud spiral under investigation is within a complete different physical state of the troposphere than the cloud band to the south. There are no frontal conditions in the area of the comma at the time being. The big cloud field can be called cloudness in the thickness ridge. This can be seen much better in a parameterfield (not shown here) of equivalent potential temperature at 850 hPa. This supports the idea that the wide spread cloud field is driven by the lower layers.